| District Policy - Hats | |
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+3Capt. Jean-Luc Picard Tyler Durden Lt. Cmd. Gordy LaForge 7 posters |
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Lt. Cmd. Gordy LaForge Magistrate
Number of posts : 98 Location : Erie, PA Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: District Policy - Hats Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:02 pm | |
| Alright, so lets see some pros and cons on the subject, I will edit this first post I am making to better fit the general view of the forum. People, please get some cons in too, I wouldn't like to see all pros. Pros:
- Keep your head warm.
- Cover bad hair
- Comfortable
- Team/McDowell Spirit
- Fashion sense (more sense of acceptance in a fashion style)
- Free expression
Cons:
- Hide contraband
- Hide identity
- Presumed to be disrespectful
- Hide Sleeping
- Immature hat flicking
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Tyler Durden Magistrate
Number of posts : 325 Location : 814 Hardcore Job/hobbies : Paper Street Soap Co. Humor : So a guy walks into a bar.... Well I forget the punchline, but your mom's a hooker Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:12 pm | |
| Here's a great essay I found online about the subject of hats: - Quote :
- Why must students of Hawthorn Secondary College take their hat, cap or beanie off when indoors? Is it to keep in line with the social norm? Is it to respect an age old tradition? This will be my sixth year as student in Hawthorn Secondary College and not even I know why this rule is in place (apart from the overwhelming sense of power teachers get from telling students over and over again to take their hat off). Surly there is no correlation between the wearing of hat�s indoors and the loss of concentration by students, so where�s the problem?
If the reason is that hats are to be taken off when inside because it�s in line with the social norm, then our school is out of date with what is now the social norm. Everywhere you go you see people wearing hats inside. At Coles and Safeway supermarkets, McDonalds, Hungry Jacks and KFC fast food outlets, bakers delight and brumbies, many different religions�s plus many other places. It is obvious that the greater part of society has accepted the wearing of hats inside and I just wish that our school would too.
If our school is trying to keep the tradition of the Hat etiquette alive, then it has forgotten easily like the majority of society has the complex and confusing rules that are accompanied with the warring of a hat. The Hat etiquette is quite a hard set of rules to remember. A gentleman must take off his hat when a woman enters an elevator in an apartment building or a hotel, as those are considered dwellings. He puts it on again in the hall, because a public corridor is like a street. In public buildings, however, the elevator is also considered public, and the hat must stay on. Men tip or lift their hat only to strangers, not to friends. A hat also is tipped to a woman when passing in a narrow space or when the man speaks to her. If a man runs into a female acquaintance, he must take his hat off when talking to her, but can put it back on if they start walking. These set of rules are out of touch with today�s standards and our school community must make a decision to either go with the hat etiquette or catch up with the rest of society.
Students wear hats for many different but all being perfectly right reasons. Some wear hats so as to save time in the morning not having to use hair gel. Others wear hats to match the clothes they�re wearing. The list is endless with reasons because hats are surprisingly useful things. They keep your head warm in winter and cool in the summer. This is quite important especially in the winter months as you loose most of your body heat from your head area. This can lead to bigger problems of you having to concentrate on keeping warm which can distract you from your learning. Knowing this, our school has a choice to make. Improve the inadequate heating system that only provides heating to the office area or let the students wear hats and beanies inside and while in class. I believe that wearing a hat or beanie could greatly improve the student�s learning capabilities and I�m not alone in thinking this way. "He can't think without his hat." Samuel Beckett, Waiting for Godot.
There is no reasonable answer to the question of why must students take their hat, cap or beanie off when indoors. You can argue that it is polite but what is reasonable is that it has the potential to improve the learning capabilities of students. Our school must realize that we the students don�t ware hats to offend or to make a statement, we simply ware hats because they are ergonomically viable. We the students have no voice in this argument that effects us, but we plead to you Credit to author- Posted by " Michael Korjen" over 5 years ago on a page about hat etiquette. | |
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Lt. Cmd. Gordy LaForge Magistrate
Number of posts : 98 Location : Erie, PA Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:25 pm | |
| that is just epic
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Capt. Jean-Luc Picard Senator
Number of posts : 75 Location : Erie, PA Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:29 pm | |
| That is disgusting- I love it. I need to say no more. Issue on wearings hats is just destroyed with those words above. We need to print that out and post it a couple of times around school. Quote the author and everything.
Hats should be allowed. Those who flick them off each others heads in a manner of disrespect and immaturity shouldn't be punished with the inability to wear hats, they should just grow up. It isn't a disturbance in the hallways or in class. And most certainly no one is going to hide a knife in the lining of their head wear. If hats prove to hide students eyes when they are in class, then have them thrown out. It's very simple. If a student doesn't wish to be there, then have him go to a study hall somewhere in a detentionly manner to write essays.
As for hoods? I believe it is the same ordeal. Wonderful post. I never about that.
-Your devoted Homunculus | |
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Tyler Durden Magistrate
Number of posts : 325 Location : 814 Hardcore Job/hobbies : Paper Street Soap Co. Humor : So a guy walks into a bar.... Well I forget the punchline, but your mom's a hooker Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:55 pm | |
| Yep, I concur. I found it, and just had to post and share, And well McDowell Student Council is just the group to share it with. I think the only reason teachers defend it so vehemently is that it's a rule, And the only reason it's a rule is that it is just for the sake of being one. While hat restrictions may have once held relevance in school and society, That is no longer the case.
~Player1~ | |
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Demosthenes Senator
Number of posts : 36 Location : 814, Keystone Registration date : 2009-02-01
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:55 am | |
| Hm. I agree with that essay wholeheartedly. I think it all boils down to a sick sense of power and control that the teachers and faculty garner from being able to hold that over our heads. frankly it pisses me off (Pardon my French) I like having a cap on when I'm out and about. whether it's an age old tradition or not, be damned. It holds no relevance in this modern day. | |
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Limey Senator
Number of posts : 25 Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:38 pm | |
| Agreed! Some teachers just uphold these rules simply because they enjoy power. | |
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Tyler Durden Magistrate
Number of posts : 325 Location : 814 Hardcore Job/hobbies : Paper Street Soap Co. Humor : So a guy walks into a bar.... Well I forget the punchline, but your mom's a hooker Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:40 pm | |
| - Limey wrote:
- Agreed! Some teachers just uphold these rules simply because they enjoy power.
Which is a complete abuse of power I might add. | |
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Lt. Cmd. Gordy LaForge Magistrate
Number of posts : 98 Location : Erie, PA Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:49 pm | |
| read above, topics merged
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Limey Senator
Number of posts : 25 Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:09 pm | |
| Absolutely. Until one of them can give me a legitimate reason as to why they are not allowed within school, I will continue to wear it until they tell me to take it off. | |
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Demosthenes Senator
Number of posts : 36 Location : 814, Keystone Registration date : 2009-02-01
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:23 pm | |
| Pros: Keeps your headwarm
can be a very good accessory item
cover up bad hair-do
Comfortable
Cons: Possibility to hide identity and or small contraband | |
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Ninja Senator
Number of posts : 98 Age : 29 Location : The Internet Job/hobbies : Musician, Professional Thief Registration date : 2009-02-06
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:45 pm | |
| pros: bad hair cover up show team/mcdowell spirit show fashion sense
cons: disrespectful
thats all i have | |
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Capt. Jean-Luc Picard Senator
Number of posts : 75 Location : Erie, PA Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:34 pm | |
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Tyler Durden Magistrate
Number of posts : 325 Location : 814 Hardcore Job/hobbies : Paper Street Soap Co. Humor : So a guy walks into a bar.... Well I forget the punchline, but your mom's a hooker Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:54 pm | |
| Pros: (Not already listed) Free expression More sense of acceptance for ones style, if it happens to include a hat, Could create friendlier atmosphere.
Cons: Some can hide people sleeping in class. | |
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Lt. Cmd. Gordy LaForge Magistrate
Number of posts : 98 Location : Erie, PA Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:06 pm | |
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Tyler Durden Magistrate
Number of posts : 325 Location : 814 Hardcore Job/hobbies : Paper Street Soap Co. Humor : So a guy walks into a bar.... Well I forget the punchline, but your mom's a hooker Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:07 pm | |
| I make a motion to have the "Dissrespectful" con renamed to "Percieved to be dissrespectful by some" All in favor? | |
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Tyler Durden Magistrate
Number of posts : 325 Location : 814 Hardcore Job/hobbies : Paper Street Soap Co. Humor : So a guy walks into a bar.... Well I forget the punchline, but your mom's a hooker Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:15 pm | |
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Lt. Cmd. Gordy LaForge Magistrate
Number of posts : 98 Location : Erie, PA Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:29 pm | |
| hooray, topics merged | |
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Tyler Durden Magistrate
Number of posts : 325 Location : 814 Hardcore Job/hobbies : Paper Street Soap Co. Humor : So a guy walks into a bar.... Well I forget the punchline, but your mom's a hooker Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:32 pm | |
| - Tyler Durden wrote:
- I make a motion to have the "Dissrespectful" con renamed to "Percieved to be dissrespectful by some"
All in favor? I repeat, All in favor? Lol | |
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Lt. Cmd. Gordy LaForge Magistrate
Number of posts : 98 Location : Erie, PA Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:45 pm | |
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Tyler Durden Magistrate
Number of posts : 325 Location : 814 Hardcore Job/hobbies : Paper Street Soap Co. Humor : So a guy walks into a bar.... Well I forget the punchline, but your mom's a hooker Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:48 pm | |
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Quagmire Senator
Number of posts : 21 Location : Erie Job/hobbies : Bum Humor : Family Guy Registration date : 2009-02-11
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:30 pm | |
| You could hide "contraband" anywhere else on your person. So if they wanted to ban all things we could hide "contraband" in, i wouldn't have any clothes. | |
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Tyler Durden Magistrate
Number of posts : 325 Location : 814 Hardcore Job/hobbies : Paper Street Soap Co. Humor : So a guy walks into a bar.... Well I forget the punchline, but your mom's a hooker Registration date : 2009-01-28
| Subject: Re: District Policy - Hats Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:33 pm | |
| - Quagmire wrote:
- You could hide "contraband" anywhere else on your person.
So if they wanted to ban all things we could hide "contraband" in, i wouldn't have any clothes. Shhhhh. That makes too much sense. And you know how the school feels about making sense..... Oh, And maybe not wearing clothes would be entertaining? Lol, Jk. I'm so fucking hilarious. | |
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