Challenge Day

So, I have information regarding Challenge Day that it is the most wondrous and fruitful thing any living being has ever participated in. Men are crying, teachers are crying, women are crying. It is just so happy and open. It is the greatest thing to ever come to humanity, they are a non-profit organization, it's all free! They work for peace between each other! It is oh so happy!

McDowell funded them twenty five thousand dollars for their efforts.

This is a legitimate source - Any comments? Concerns? Is challenge day really worth the money? Was the information false? Tell me what you know.

I think that going to Church would be more beneficial in the long run. If everyone had grown up in a practicing Christian family, then there wouldn't be a need for these extra organizations to correct our behavior because it would already be engrained into our being.
But unfortunately, that is a purely hypothetical situation.

Being forced to go to church will only further infuriate those who don't want to be there or who don't have religious beliefs that follow any traditional path. From my own experiences, whether or not someone attends church has absolutely no correlation with their behavior. You are right in the sense that the world would be better if we were all blindly christian. However, there would be GREAT negatives to deal with along with the overall increase in behavior and such. We could essentially gain world peace if we were all the same (as religious differences have accounted for quite a large percentage of all major conflicts), but at what cost? Without conflict, there can be no advancement worth making.

Now, back on topic for one sentence (or maybe two) >_>
Nearly all of us will eventually lower our own behavior to the behavior of the corrupted world around us. There is hope for the future, however. If our generation retains some semblance of dignity as a whole and doesn't fall as far as we could, we can set the example.

Quote :

"Good people do good things and bad people do bad things, but it takes religion for good people to do bad things."

Religion or church isn't the answer to everything,
A single world religion would only brainwash us into sedation,
And it's not worth it.

But on the topic of Challenge Day,
I've heard many good things,
But havn't seen it for myself,
But I will tomorrow and will then report my findings then.

But seriously,
That is a lot of money.
I was walking out of Biology class today and saw a HUGE leak in the school's ceiling.
it would only take a fraction of that $25,000 to fix it,
And we havn't.
So I think the school needs to get its budget priorities straight.

Roland Deschain wrote:

Being forced to go to church will only further infuriate those who don't want to be there or who don't have religious beliefs that follow any traditional path. From my own experiences, whether or not someone attends church has absolutely no correlation with their behavior. You are right in the sense that the world would be better if we were all blindly christian. However, there would be GREAT negatives to deal with along with the overall increase in behavior and such. We could essentially gain world peace if we were all the same (as religious differences have accounted for quite a large percentage of all major conflicts), but at what cost? Without conflict, there can be no advancement worth making.

I'm not saying Church would fix it, but as you say, being 'blindly Christian'. And yes, certain advances would still be made. The Scientific Revolution was started by Christians, and I believe that they would continue to strive to further understand God's creation.
But, as I said, this will never happen, and the world would be better off with the conflict, so let's just stick to the topic of Challenge Day.

Tyler Durden wrote:

Quote :

"Good people do good things and bad people do bad things, but it takes religion for good people to do bad things."

I don't really understand that quote... Please explain in PM maybe?

Tyler Durden wrote:

But seriously,
That is a lot of money.
I was walking out of Biology class today and saw a HUGE leak in the school's ceiling.
it would only take a fraction of that $25,000 to fix it,
And we havn't.
So I think the school needs to get its budget priorities straight.

That would involve committees...

Well as much as commitees may be detrimental,
As they are slow,
Challenge Day also took many commitees,
So it's a misapplication of commitee usage if anything.

Oh,
And by the by,
Science wasn't started by Christians,
The first man to make fire,
Or use a rock as a tool,
Most deffinitely did so before 0 A.D.

Sorry, I meant the Scientific Revolution. (edited)

Ah, okay.
That's fair about the Scientific Revolution.

But on the topic of Challenge Day,
I went today,
And I loved it.
Some parts more than others,
But it was most definitely a beneficial program.
I'm not quite sold on being worth 25k of tax payers money,
But it's definitely a close one.
And I know just about everyone who was there thoroughly enjoyed it and learned a lot.

Homunculus wrote:

This is a legitimate source

What is your source? I'm having trouble believing that it would cost $25,000 to have a non-profit organization come in for three days. What with it being non-profit and all.

Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't really make sense to me.

I could picture it costing that much,
Because you've got airfare, hotels, equipment,
Substitute teachers, lunches, etc.
I'm not sure if it would cost exactly that much,
But i see it being realistic.

I don't know. I just can't see $25,000. A significant amount of money, yes, but $25,000 seems a bit blown up. If it is the case, though, I would have to say that I don't think it's worth it. I participated in Challenge Day on Wednesday the 4th, and I was certainly impressed and affected by the program, but I'm not sure it's significant enough to go and spend a quarter of a hundred thousand dollars of taxpayer's money on it.

Yea,
I concur with Martin Luthor.

I did it. It was tasteful, and very emotional. It was a great experience. I did it last year also. However, 25 grand is an absurd amount of money for a supposed not profit organization, especially in the economic state the country is in.

I enjoyed it, I really did.
And I learned some stuff too.
But some restraint is needed in the spending of tax payer's money.

what do people do in challenge day?

A lot actually.
They show how you don't really know a person's background or homelife,
No matter how they act in school.
They also talk about the power of listening.
Those are the two main things,
With about 8000 subtopics.

I also would like to officially note that this is our first topic to reach a second page.
So Huh-rah!!

I went to Challenge Day. It was great, but as to the 25 thousand mentioned, i really doubt this. Challenge Day is a NON-PROFIT organization, meaning they do NOT make money for themselves. I can see maybe about $1000.00 for the shirts, $50.00 for total nametags used, but other than that, not much. I dont see the cost going over $9,000.00. Even if it did cost a lot of money, it is definitely worth it, i myself learned a lot of things. The only problem i have is that the whole student body can't do the program. if everyone could, and take it seriously too, then McDowell would be a great place.

This is what happened last year. Everyone was all "YEAH CHALLENGE DAY!". Then after about a month, everyone had forgotten and went back to their old ways.

Limey wrote:

This is what happened last year. Everyone was all "YEAH CHALLENGE DAY!". Then after about a month, everyone had forgotten and went back to their old ways.

i think that's already starting to happen with me... oh well...

I'm not sure Challenge Day changed me as much as they intended.
I already did most of the stuff they told us,
Such as not judging people based on looks/dress,
And realizing you don't completely know everyone and their past.
But it did change me a bit in addition to that,
And for the better.
But still.
Money is money.
Redundant is redundant.
And people should be like that anyway,
But is it worth all the money for mixed results that not everyone can participate in?

And that's the problem. You can't honestly expect to change something by coming in one day, from school to school with them giving you thousands of dollars to continue on your journey of making a change. Change with people has to either be very very quick, or over a long chronic period of time. Us people, we do not accept change easily I'll give us that. Challenge day as a whole? Worth it not? Everyone says it impacted me yes. But what did it DO for you?

Do you now appreciate those around you more, and realize that everyone has problems?
Did you suddenly realize that even football players and assholes cry?
Did you suddenly realize that even teachers are people?

What is this wonderful discovery?


In conclusion, I say we all need to listen to some more jazz.
Why?
...
I have no idea..

Chosen of Denier wrote:

In conclusion, I say we all need to listen to some more jazz.
Why?
...
I have no idea..

I think that'd help just about as much as everything else.
If people really wanted to make a difference,
There shouldn't be a day dedicated to it,
But people should be striving to "Be the Change" without having to be told,
And to change themselves and their sorroundings for the better day after day.

Tyler Durden wrote:

Chosen of Denier wrote:

In conclusion, I say we all need to listen to some more jazz.
Why?
...
I have no idea..

I think that'd help just about as much as everything else.
If people really wanted to make a difference,
There shouldn't be a day dedicated to it,
But people should be striving to "Be the Change" without having to be told,
And to change themselves and their sorroundings for the better day after day.

That's actually spot on correct. Mr. Davis is always talking about how despises food drives. Why does he hate them so?

"BECAUSE IF YOU"RE GOING TO GIVE TO PEOPLE! DOING IT FOR ONLY ONE MONTH IS AN INSULT! FOOD DRIVES SHOULD BE ALL DAMNED YEAR LONG!"
-Mr. Davis

We should become who we become. If we are so blinded that we cannot realize the truth of the worlds' troubles and people hard lives , and we actually NEED someone to come in and talk to us about it for a day. Boy, have we got something coming for us.

So as I said.
We should just listen to some more jazz..
Why?...
Just because.

I concur with above post. ^^^^^^

DAMN IT. I just had a really nice long post typed out and then I pressed backspace. DAMN. Oh well. Basically what I said....
We can't make people change in one day. All we can do is be ourselves, and try to better the world one little bit at a time. Unfortunately we are now the minority in the world. Oh well. It's kind of hard watching the world burn and destroy itself, but whatever.

PS: The DOW dropped another 400 points today. Great.....